Legislature(1997 - 1998)

03/10/1997 01:44 PM House FIN

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        HOUSE BILL NO. 145                                                     
                                                                               
             "An Act relating to certification of teachers."                   
                                                                               
        REPRESENTATIVE CON BUNDE, SPONSOR testified  on behalf of HB
        145.   He maintained  that there is  a lack of  faith in the           
        system.   He was  a  participant in  an Anchorage  education           
        focus group.   The focus group  agreed on the importance  of           
        public confidence in teachers and  the quality of education.           
        He observed that  the legislation is  a screening devise  to           
                                                                               
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        remove teachers who  are not  well qualified. Teachers  must           
        pass a  basic screening test  before they can  receive their           
        Type  A teaching certificate  in Alaska.   He observed that,           
        currently,  the  only  requirement  for  a Type  A  teaching           
        certificate  is a  college  degree.    In  addition  to  the           
        screening  test, school  districts apply their  own criteria           
        for teachers.   He clarified that  the legislation does  not           
        represent  an attempt to tell local  districts who they must           
        hire.    He  emphasized that  the  legislation  will provide           
        assurance  that applicants  are  competent.   Teachers  will           
        still be chosen through an interview process.                          
                                                                               
        In  response  to   a  question  by   Representative  Martin,           
        Representative Bunde clarified  that a Bachelors of  Science           
        degree in Education does not  provide a teaching certificate           
        in the State of  Alaska.  The graduate still has  to come to           
        the  State  of  Alaska  and  demonstrate  that  they have  a           
        teaching certificate.                                                  
                                                                               
        Representative  Martin   assumed  that   graduates  of   the           
        University  of  Alaska   would  be   competent.     Co-Chair           
        Therriault observed that the test  would also screen out-of-           
        state candidates.                                                      
                                                                               
        Representative Martin noted that attitude and experience are           
        needed  to  make  a  good  teacher.   He  thought  that  the           
        legislation would make  it more  difficult to get  qualified           
        teachers.                                                              
                                                                               
        Representative  Grussendorf  suggested   that  teachers   be           
        required to pass the examination within their first year  of           
        employment.   He expressed  concern that  there  would be  a           
        bottleneck during hiring.                                              
                                                                               
        Representative Bunde observed  that most hiring takes  place           
        in early spring.  Candidates would have 4 - 5 months to pass           
        the examination.                                                       
                                                                               
        Representative Bunde stated that openings occur during  mid-           
        year.  He  noted that available  teachers, in Alaska  today,           
        number in the hundreds.  He acknowledged that there needs to           
        be flexibility for short-term emergency contracts.                     
                                                                               
        Representative   Grussendorf   observed   that   there   are           
        situations  where teachers  provide  notification that  they           
        will not fulfill their contract just before the school year.           
        Representative Bunde added that additional teachers might be           
        needed  in  the  beginning of  the  school  year  due to  an           
        increase in enrollment.   He emphasized  that the intent  is           
        not to "tie the  hands of school districts."   He maintained           
        that  the  examination  would  be part  of  the  process  of           
        achieving a Type A teaching certificate.                               
                                                                               
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        JOHN  CYR,  NEA-ALASKA,  explained that  if  a  district can           
        demonstrate that they cannot find a person who is certified,           
        they  can  ask  for  an  emergency certificate.    Emergency           
        teaching certificates are issued for one year.                         
                                                                               
        Representative Grussendorf reiterated  concerns that  school           
        boards have plenty of time to field a full academic team.              
                                                                               
        NANCY BUEHL, DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION explained that there is           
        an emergency certificate  process.  The District  would have           
        to demonstrate that they advertised  for a person and  could           
        not  secure a  qualified  applicant.    She noted  that  the           
        Department  receives  3 to  4  emergency applicants  a year.           
        Emergency certificates tend  to be  mid-year and from  rural           
        districts.    She  stressed  that  it is  possible  to  make           
        provisions  for emergency  situations in  regulations.   She           
        observed  that  the  commissioner  can  issue  a provisional           
        certificate  for Alaskan  studies if  there are  extenuating           
        circumstances.  She  stated that similar regulations  can be           
        written in response to the legislation.                                
                                                                               
        Representative  Martin   asked   how  the   test  would   be           
        implemented.    Representative  Bunde interjected  that  the           
        legislation  would  only  pertain  to  those that  have  not           
        received their Type A certificate.  Ms. Buehl added that the           
        Department  does not  intend to  administer  the test.   The           
        Department, through the  Board of Education, would  select a           
        nationally recognized test that is administered by a testing           
        company.   She stated  that the  test would  be administered           
        similar to the bar exam.  Representative Bunde noted that 40           
        other states have some form of certification test.                     
                                                                               
        Representative Therriault  noted that  most  states use  the           
        Praxis test.   Ms. Buehl  observed that the  Praxis test  is           
        undergoing revision.                                                   
                                                                               
        In response to a question  by Representative Martin, Mr. Cyr           
        explained that there  are two types of  substitute teachers.           
        certificated substitute teachers hold a valid Alaskan Type A           
        certificate.      Districts   also   have   non-certificated           
        substitutes  that  are   under  supervision   of  the   site           
        supervisor.  The legislation only applies  to those that are           
        seeking initial certification.                                         
                                                                               
        In  response   to  a  question   by  Representative   Davis,           
        Representative  Bunde  explained  that  those  with  Type  A           
        teaching   certificates  would   not  be  affected   by  the           
        legislation.                                                           
                                                                               
        Representative Martin noted that rural communities might not           
        have replacements  to fill vacancies.   Representative Bunde           
                                                                               
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        emphasized  that  screen  tests are  important  in emergency           
        situations.                                                            
                                                                               
        Ms. Buehl reviewed the emergency certification process.  The           
        superintendent sends  a letter  to the  commissioner of  the           
        Department  of  Environmental  Conservation.      Generally,           
        requests are acted on  the same day that they  are received.           
        Emergency certifications are  used when  a district can  not           
        locate  a certified teacher but has located someone that has           
        some  qualification.   The  commissioner  acts on  each case           
        separately.  She could did not  remember a case that was not           
        granted  within  a  couple  of  days.    The  district  must           
        advertise the position for  two weeks as a condition  of the           
        regulation.                                                            
                                                                               
        In response to a question by Representative Davis, Ms. Buehl           
        noted  that tests  are  commonly given  four  times a  year.           
        Representative  Davis  stressed  that  there  are a  lot  of           
        intangibles  that  teachers  need.     Representative  Bunde           
        discussed alternative  routes to  certification.   He  noted           
        that a program for alternative certification was dropped due           
        to a lack of interest.                                                 
                                                                               
        Ms. Buehl noted that a high  percentage of minorities do not           
        pass  these  tests on  the  first  or second  attempt.   She           
        observed that  Oregon discovered that a  similar requirement           
        lowered  the  available  pool.    She  emphasized  that  the           
        Department will make sure that the  test that is chosen does           
        not suffer from inherent bias and is available to those with           
        disabilities.  She stressed that the test  must be carefully           
        chosen.   She clarified  that the  alternative certification           
        program was  discontinued due  to a  lack of  funding.   She           
        thought  that there  would  be interest  in  the program  if           
        funding were available.                                                
                                                                               
        Representative Davies asked if there  are tests available in           
        multiform  that address  the issue  of inherent  bias.   Ms.           
        Buehl observed that there are at least two other states that           
        have engaged  in development  with test  companies to  lower           
        bias  for  student populations.    She  was not  aware  of a           
        teacher  screening  test  that would  eliminate  bias.   She           
        acknowledged that it is a significant concern.                         
                                                                               
        Representative  Davies  asked  if  there  is  evidence  that           
        similar screening requirements have  resulted in an increase           
        in  competency  and  public  confidence  in  the educational           
        process.                                                               
                                                                               
        Representative Bunde observed  that the State of  California           
        found that  some applicants  could not  spell  at the  sixth           
        grade  level.  He  spoke in  support of  a minimum  level of           
        literacy.                                                              
                                                                               
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        Representative Martin expressed concern that the examination           
        will  be  an obstacle  to Native  applicants.   He  spoke in           
        support of encouraging Nataive teachers.                               
                                                                               
        Mr. Cyr  noted that there are  only five states that  do not           
        have some type of assessment for an initial certificate.  He           
        emphasized that the way to get  minority teachers is to work           
        with  them within their community.  He stressed that it is a           
        disservice to the  Native community to  say that the  Native           
        community cannot take a test.                                          
                                                                               
        In response to a question by Representative Davies, Mr.  Cyr           
        maintained  that  an initial  screening  is important.   Ms.           
        Buehl  did  not   think  that   the  requirement  would   be           
        particularly controversial.                                            
                                                                               
        Representative   Davies   discussed   the  tenure   process.           
        Representative Bunde maintained that three years is too long           
        to employ an incompetent teacher.  Mr. Cyr observed that the           
        examination provides the initial license.   School districts           
        would still evaluate practicing teachers for tenure.                   
                                                                               
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        Representative  Bunde  observed  that   the  test  would  be           
        administered  in  two   levels.    The  first   level  would           
        demonstrate competency for elementary subjects.   The second           
        level  would  test  competency to  teach  math,  English, or           
        science.    He  acknowledged  that   good  teachers  have  a           
        "calling".  He  observed that  students are screened  during           
        the college process.                                                   
                                                                               
        Co-Chair  Therriault  referred  to the  fiscal  note  by the           
        Department of Education.   He  observed that the  Department           
        has reduced the fiscal  note.  Ms. Buehl explained  that the           
        fiscal note was  revised to reflect that the Department will           
        not administer the test.                                               
                                                                               
        Co-Chair Therriault  pointed out  that the  Department would           
        still control  the contract  with the  private  sector.   He           
        stated that fees would  be paid to the Department,  then the           
        Department would contract  with the test provider.   Program           
        receipts   would  come  and   contractual  money   would  be           
        appropriated.   Ms. Buehl  stated that  the original  fiscal           
        note dated 3/5/97 would reflect this process.                          
                                                                               
        In response to a question by Co-Chair  Therriault, Ms. Buehl           
        explained  that the  Board of Education  would need  to meet           
        more frequently  in order to  select the test  and establish           
        cut-off scores.   She emphasized that the  cut-off must be a           
        legally defensible  cut-off.  She emphasized  the complexity           
                                                                               
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        of validating the test.  She clarified that the $40 thousand           
        dollar travel  request would  pay for  the Board,  staff and           
        technical advisors.    The second  page of  the fiscal  note           
        details the travel costs.                                              
                                                                               
        Co-Chair Therriault questioned  the request of  $77 thousand           
        dollars for personal services.  Ms. Buehl noted that several           
        positions are associated  with this  request.  She  observed           
        that a portion  of this request  would go to test  selection           
        and review.   She  stated that  the request  is spread  over           
        existing  people  plus  a  temporary  position  during   the           
        selection period.   A temporary education associate  will be           
        hired for part  of the year.    Co-Chair Therriault  pointed           
        out that  part of  their request  funds  personnel that  are           
        already contained in the budget.                                       
                                                                               
        In  response  to a  question  by Representative  Martin, Ms.           
        Buehl  noted that certification  fees could be  raised.  She           
        stated that the current fee is not sufficient to support the           
        costs.   She noted that  4,500 applicants would  be affected           
        per year.                                                              
                                                                               
        In response  to a question by Co-Chair Therriault, Ms. Buehl           
        explained  that  continuing   personal  service  costs  were           
        included to cover  additional data input.   She stated  that           
        existing staff  would have  to be  taken off  of some  other           
        task.   Co-Chair Therriault observed that the State does not           
        pay for the same position more than once.                              
                                                                               
        Ms. Buehl noted  that options  available to the  Department;           
        existing  personnel  would  have to  quit  doing  something,           
        redeploy a clerk  that is in some other division, add a long           
        term non-permanent  position, or  add a  new position.   Co-           
        Chair Therriault stressed that fiscal  notes are supposed to           
        reflect new general fund dollars.                                      
                                                                               
        HB 145 was HELD in Committee for further consideration.                

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